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billion in entitlement cuts over ten years. still to be negotiated. mr. obama also wants emergency unemployment benefits and a temporary payroll tax holiday extended along with the infrastructure spending and mortgage relief, the price tag for the president's stimulus bill could rise to $50 billion or more. after meeting with secretary geithner, speaker boehner said he didn't see any sign of compromise from the white house. >> first despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. and secondly, no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> eliot: no sooner had boehner finished then senate majority leader harry reid took the podium to challenge republicans to come up with their own plan. >> we're saying extend the tax cuts for middle class. as part of that, of course, we know if we do nothing that top rates go up and the nats are waiting for the republicans to come
negotiator jonathan pershing. >> civil society groups are extremely frustrated here. president obama, in his first speech after elected, said that he didn't want our children to live in an america that is threatened by the destructive power of a warming planet. yesterday, a number of civil society groups held a news conference and they said -- greenpeace said that tod stern and got the pershing have come to doha with a goal of obstructing the process. he said that it was disrespectful of president obama to inflict on us to the bureau negative negotiators to act as if the commerce that he made after the election were never made. obama should pick up the phone and tell his delegates to follow his lead or alternatively return to washington. jonathan, are you calling president obama's wishes, and how you respond to thcivil sociy groups who say that the u.s. is the leader of stricter to any kind of negotiatied deal? >> all have no comment on the first part. on the second piece, the united states' role is engaging actively in the discussions. we are one of the significant triggers to the intellect
negotiations until the debt ceiling vote next year. president obama won't have it. the president is attacking the only leverage republicans have left. the president spoke to a group of ceos today and said that he will not negotiate if debt ceiling is going to be used as a hostage. >> i have to just tell you, that is a bad strategy for america, it is a bad strategy for your businesses, and it is not a game that i will play. so i want to send a very clear message to people here. we are not going to play that game next year. if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again, as part of a budget negotiation, which, by the way, we have never done in our history, until we did it last year, i will not play that game. because we've got to break that habit before it starts. >> treasury secretary tim geithner also made it very clear, this is no game. he spoke with cnbc about holding the line with tax increases for the top 2%. >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fis
always want to know what you think. >>> coming up, how is president obama supposed to negotiate with republicans who won't realize reality or deal with basic facts? former congressman tom perriello, center for american progress, joining us next.ntur . but they have to use special care in keeping the denture clean. dentures are very different to real teeth. they're about 10 times softer and may have surface pores where bacteria can multiply. polident is designed to clean dentures daily. its unique micro-clean formula kills 99.9% of odor causing bacteria and helps dissolve stains, cleaning in a better way than brushing with toothpaste. that's why i recommend using polident. [ male announcer ] polident. cleaner, fresher, brighter every day. >>> paul ryan and marco rubio try to reinvent themselves as the warriors for the middle class. buy it? i'll ask congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz if their actions match up with their rhetoric. that's coming up. >>> and the gop's attempt to create an alternate reality seems to be working. find out what almost half of republicans believe abou
." they are on record. >> these are the people you want to negotiate with. >> president obama and mike mitt romney to lunch. as promised, president obama and mitt romney over to the white house for lunch. i want to ask you about a new piece in "the new republic" about the romney campaign's internal polling. everywhere you go in washington, they say why were they so surprised they lost? the internal polling told them they were going to win. >> there are polls showing that romney was ahead in new hampshire and colorado, with in the campaign. a great pollster -- the problem was that they had a turnout model that was not what the turnout turned out to be paid i don't think anybody was going to deduct the kind of turnout among voters between ages 18 and 29 or latino voters that we had on election day except the obama people. >> or even african-americans, who voted in percentages beyond their percentage of the population. the article% of the population, 50% of the obama -- they are called% of the publishing, 15% of the obama vote. >> colby king said on this program at that that is because they felt thre
department criminal investigation of the gulf spill. up next, president obama is not at the negotiating table, no schedule for negotiating on the president's schedule, just about 30 days until the fiscal cliff arrives. the "a-team" is here to tell us what the president is doing. what is his real game? what is up on capitol hill? regal explain the president's strategy. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligatio. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. intrucing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find outhy 9 out of 10 large professional investors building blocks for the choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackck. call 1-800-ishes for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. ♪ lou: well, joining us now, economist, author, a pulitzer prize-winning new york columnist, fox news contributor, and democratic strategist. the you think we're going to go over th
is one of many geithnerreasury secretary tim geithner, mr. obama's lead with t negotiator, will have meetings e bowlesth top congressional thisrs. othpson bowles met with all the ue.yers at both ends of 'mnnsylvania avenue. >> i'm not more optimistic or less optimistic. puthopeful but don't put me e nearnywhere near the optimistic category. tove got a long way to go and a likefew days to get it done. >> lindsey graham from south carolina have offered to break a revenueax increase pledge and ntise revenue as part of a deal but graham now is pulling back until the president offers ntitlement reform. a i've not seen one deal from country downouse that deal with medicare, medicaid and social security which are all going to fail and take this country down the road of grief. and until i hear something from the white house on that, i'm not going to say another thing on revenue. >> mr. obama will meet with his v vanquished republican rival, mitt romney. it's been several weeks, after all, since the election night when president obama vowed to ph.t with mitt romney. ga major garret, thank you
through negotiations, then i think we'll see president obama being an active and full partner. >> martin indyk, thank you very much. thanks for being with us today. >>> and up next, republicans scoffing at the president's opening offer. how will they counter? republican congressman jason chav fit joins us. the wife of an american contractor jailed in cuba turns up the heat in washington. we'll hear from judy gross ahead. >> alan relayed a message to me that i just found overwhelmingly sad. he said, you know, judy, i was sent here by the u.s. government and i feel like i've been dumped here and forgotten. made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. >>> house republicans say they have a laundry list of pro
the president's new negotiate i want aing style. it said mr. obama scattered by failed negotiations in his first term and emboldened by his re-election has shown to be a dlimp different negotiate or. the white house reminded people what the president basically campaigned on saying that everybody knew going in what they were getting re-lecting th this stifle president. does he walk with confidence of re-election under his belt and is this the way it's going to go, nor mr. nice guy approach? >> i think the president believes very strongly that we can't repeat the mistakes of the past. that going back to tax cuts for the wealthiest americans, hoping that trickles down the rest of us have failed us for well over a decade. what we need to do instead is be serious about protecting the middle class and the republicans agree with that. don't hold those tax breaks for millionaires hostage. let's reduce taxes for the middle class. that's something that we all agree on fine let's get it done. if we believe we need to make certain investments which we do to grow the economy, in infrastructure and innovation
that a democrat has won for re-election in the last 100 years. with the so-called fiscal cliff looming mr. obama sends chief negotiator treasury secretary tim gheiter for individual meetings with each member of the conditioningal leadership which includes speaker john boehner, perhaps the most important player here. the meetings mark the beginning of the real negotiations. that doesn't mean the posturing stage is behind us. one capitol hill veteran, former fdic, sheila bair, a long-time staffer by the way who butted heads with geithner in the past, made this interesting observation to david gregory about tim geithner saying he's not the right guy for the white house to be sending in for these talks. >> do you think tim geithner, secretary geithner is the right person to lead the negotiations for the administration sf. >> i don't know. i don't think this is tim's strong suit. i think tim was given the job of treasury secretary because he understood the banking system. he's not a budget guy. he's not a tax guy. he's never really worked in this sphere. >> geithner is leading these talks for two rea
and palestine have been negotiating. >>> with 33 days left to the "fiscal cliff" deadline, president obama sent his treasury secretary to capitol hill to negotiate with congressional leaders and it didn't appear to go well. >> i got to tell you, i'm disappointed in where we are and disappointed in what's happened over the last couple of weeks. but going over the "fiscal cliff" is serious business. and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it. i would hope the white house would get serious, as well. >> house speaker john boehner came out of the meeting declaring himself disappointed with the white house's proposals. he says democrats have failed to offer a specific plan for cutting spending. and sources who have been in on the talks for months say even though in public the deal seems like it won't happen, in private it is starting to take shape. here's some of the details they have given politico.com. taxes will go up about $1.2 trillion, entitlement programs mainly medicare will be cut by no less than $400 billion. there will be at least $1.2 trillion in spending cuts and war cuts. >>> another
connell when the president's initial proposal was presented. do you think that president obama started these negotiated on the wrong foot with that $1.6 trillion offer? >> no. you know, i actually think senator mcconnell is being pretty "redridiculous to laugh. the laugh is really just a way to try to ridicule the seriousness of the negotiation that senator mcconnell plays a major role in. in a normal negotiation. you go in and buy a car, you're going to low ball your first offer and you're going to wait for that counteroffer. the president, he's probably coming in at his high point, but, you know what, next move is speaker boehner, senator mcconnell, what is your counteroffer? they don't want to get specific about what revenue they would be willing to raise and understandably so because they're going to have a back lash, a furious backlash within their caucus once they get specific. they also won't be specific about medicare. they say they want "cuts" but they won't say what those are. if they want to get serious, they have to get real. >> senator mcconnell said raising the eligibilit
, it is obviously childish in certain ways to watch but it's also how negotiations happen, right? president obama, what i think we saw today, was he won the election and he feels like he's sort of partially broken the republicans. you've had republican movement on taxes in a way you hadn't had a year ago, and so he's decided rather than sort of play the nice guy, he's going to push much harder and see what he can get. there are important things at stake here, and i'm more inclined to agree with the republicans than with the president about what should be done, but i don't think anyone can blame him exactly for pushing at the moment. that's sort of what politicians are supposed to do. >> frank, on that point, the president clearly feels emboldened as you would do by being re-elected. can we expect to see a different obama? it struck me that the one thing he's not that good at actually is negotiating. if you compare him to somebody like bill clinton, i remember interviewing both president clinton and also newt gingrich. after a few early skirmishes which led to big problems, they then sort of got a
of democrats on the hill felt that in the past president obama has negotiated with himself rather than forced the republicans to come forward with their own deal, and republicans have yet to come forward with a deal. martha: that's a fair point. >> what the president's staff said yesterday, was, you know the president has already had a trillion dollars in cuts made under his terms. he wants to see from the republicans if they are willing to do something significant in terms of those revenue increases. we had the broad outlines of a possible deal, because what speaker of the house john boehner said he wants in the neighborhood of 400 billion. obama is asking for 1.6 trillion. you can see somewhere in the middle as a possible negotiating or compromise point. >> we should remind everybody the president has been talking about entitlement reform for four years. "the washington post" reminded them this might ab good time to lead because you're the president. martha: it feels like there is a real opportunity here for some history-making leadership and we'll see if we get it. thank you so much. mary
tries new negotiation tack. not giving in. the headline in the baltimore business journal screams obama's fiscal cliff offer spurned by republicans. obama takes hard line on debt. which might be news to some people in the parenthetical. tony is a political correspondent and mark hannah is a former aide to the john kerry and barack obama presidential campaigns. some of the media tries to short form the story and comes up with a headline that can be barbed easily. this is suggested by a cable anchor who suggested the media has been arrogant since barack obama won in covering him and in covering in particular this fiscal cliff. tony, your thoughts. >> it could only be an msnbc anchor to take this long to figure out. there have been some media, the financial times which endorsed the president has called the president's bluff on this plan. they say this is the same proposal he put in front of congress that received zero votes a year ago, not even one democratic vote. but what the media has been doing is buying into this story line that president obama has some sort of mandate to do whatever
.o.p. lawmakers to accepting the tax hikes now. >> i miss visiting towns like this. >> president obama got his wish, rather than negotiating with republicans he was hamering them. back on the campaign trail in a factory that makes angry bird toys. >> it's not accept to believe me and i don't think it's acceptable for you for republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage because they don't want the tax rates on the upper income folks to go up. >> within minutes, john boehner fired back the talks are on life support. >> let's not kid ourselves. >> boehner ripped the president for sending treasury secretary ti tim geithner to capitol hill with a proposal that led mitch mcconnell literally burst out laughing. >> the white house took three weeks to respond with any kind of proposal. and much to my disappointment, it wasn't a serious one. >> their beef is the president campaigned on $800 billion in tax increases by ending the bush tax cuts for the wealthy. but is now proposing double that. $1.6 trillion. by adding tax hikes on dividends and capital gains. plus, the white house wants
the president will be coming to the table and be serious about negotiating. >> president obama has an unbelievable opportunity to be a transformational president, that is, to bring the country together uniquely and solve this debt problem in ways that other presidents haven't really had that opportunity, or he can dissolve into zero-sum-game politics, where he wins and other people lose. i have seen an attribute in president obama when i served with him in the state senate where he was able to rise above and transform some very controversial issues in a way that was powerful. and it's my hope that president obama rises to this opportunity, avoids this zero-sum-game splash and instead leads the nation in ways that only one person can do, that is the president of the united states. house republicans are prepared to get to yes. house republicans are not prepared to get to foolish. and it is foolish to reject president obama's own self-described architecture of $3 in spending cuts for every dollar in new revenue. we are prepared to work and call on the white house to do the same thing.
americans. president obama sent his top negotiator to the treasury secretary. tim geithner to capitol hill today. he met with leaders of both parties. republicans say they made no progress. and surprise, each party blames the other. >> the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. and, secondly, no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> republicans know where we stand. we have said it, we have said it, we have said it so many times the president said the same thing. it's been weeks, at least two weeks since we met at the white house and are still waiting for a serious offer from the republics. >> shepard: after his meeting with secretary geithner the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said of administration officials quote today they took a step backward moving away from consensus and closer to that cliff. ed henry is live at the white house for us tonight. ed we are getting new information about what tim geithner put on the table today at the hill. >> breaking tonight are these details basical
're willing to put revenues on the table, in the past that was good enough for president obama when he was negotiating with the speaker on the debt ceiling deal. and the question was, what's the number? the president at that point wasn't saying how are you getting to it. we can get to it. here's the thing --. liz: you gave them a number? is that what you're saying, gave them a number how much revenue it would generate or deductions to eliminate? >> clearly in the last debate during the debt ceiling deal was the president as one number. overplayed his hand and speaker had to walk away. the white house is coming up saying they need another trillion six in revenue? that is not realistic. liz: what is your number. >> i will not give you a number. the point the house republicans are willing to say revenues are part of this conversation. here is what we heard from the white house in terms of offerings on spending. nothing. zip. liz: yeah. >> so they have made, they have made an offering today that is completely not serious. more stimulus spending. unbridled presidential authority to raise th
that these negotiations are essentially in a stalemate. president obama as you know hit the road, went to hatfield, pennsylvania to take his case to the people of pennsylvania. trying to put pressure on republicans to get on board with his plan to increase taxes on the wealthiest americans. he made his case at a toy maker there and exceptionally said that if lawmakers can't get a deal done by the first of the year, taxes will go up on middle class americans by about $2,000. that will be bad for middle class americans and also bad for businesses like connects toy maker which is where he spoke a little earlier on today. especially as we enter the busy holiday shopping season. here is a little more of what president obama had to say today. take a listen. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1st. every family. everybody here, you'll see your taxes go up on january 1st. i mean, i'm assuming that doesn't sound too good to you. that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> reporter: tim
obama and treasury secretary to make his case while the president himself negotiators his kay way through 18 holes and a black tie bash. speaker boehner sums up with where things are with the word of the week, nowhere. a big fight brewing over republicans ratifying a u.n. treaty to help people with disabilities that's based on a u.s. law signed by a republican president. find out how a republican attorney general plan to overcome the opposition. >> president obama pile on praise that sounds like anything but. a farewell for hillary clinton. i'm fighting a fiscal cough, so pardon that. if it's always darkest. it's clear the white house-re house-republican leaders, both sides appear to be very far apart, saluting kennedy center honorees from dustin hoffman to led zeppelin and hitting the golf links with former president bill clinton. the guy with whom he will have to make a deal to end the standoff on the fiscal cliff house speaker john boehner requested time on fox news to publicly declare the president's opening bid a nonstarter. >> i was flabbergasted. we're nowhere. >> treasury
a closer look now at one of the key sticking points in those negotiations over the federal budget. president obama's insistence that any deal include higher tax rates for high-income earners. we asked wyatt andrews to tell us how that might affect small businesses. >> so we need a couple of boxes for these. >> reporter: kevin green owns two flower and gift shops in alexandria, virginia, and he says raising taxes on the wealthy won't just hurt him. it will hurt his workers and the economy. >> all you do is reduce the capital available for investment and employment. >> reporter: small business owners typically report business income on their personal taxes. in a good year, green's income will exceed $250,000, making him one of the taxpayers the president says should pay more. in his case, an estimated $8,000 more. what's the economic downside to asking eight more thousand dollars for you? >> i don't have $8,000 to spend on those employees or that inventory or the business that draws customers. >> reporter: by congressional estimates there are some 941,000 high-income small businesse
respondespo -- >> today, president obama and john boehner spoke by phone about the fiscal cliff negotiations, but there is no progress. they still have a stand off over the rates. the president still wants to raise rates on the top 2% of americans. the speaker is not moving on that position. this comes on the same day that secretary geithner made it clear in language they have not used before, just how far they're willing to go in the administration to stand by those terms. >> is the administration prepared today go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there is no agreement without those rates going up on the top 2%. and they all get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income. >> reporter: so wolf, it's a step forward that they're talking, but in essence, where we stand right now, it's still a stalemate. >> any indication that the vice president, secretary of treasury, others are talking with top people on capitol hill? meeting face to face and going through these items line by line? >> reporter: my understanding is that the white house is not going to start negotiating the details unt
to be the shepherd of peace talks, the palestinians defied president obama's express wishes not to do this. the u.s. calls for direct negotiations. we have seen this in the wake of the reaction. prime minister netanyahu said this is not a vote for peace. the challenge is getting the two sides back to the table in to direct negotiations. that has been rendered more difficult in the short term. >> and what of the struggle against hamas? >> in the short term, it is an effort to show that his diplomatic efforts do produce something. but the question is, how long will be announced last? i suspect it will not last long. >> outrageous and wreaking havoc, those are some of the descriptions of britain's newspapers. it was triggered by the phone hacking scandal. lord justice levenson has called for a new regulatory body to police the press. the bbc reports. >> it is the most comprehensive study of the british press ever cared goucher based on mesut -- the testimony of hundreds of witnesses, many of whom -- of the british press ever. based on the testimony of hundreds of witnesses. with its power and influe
of reach. and timothy geithner headed up negotiations for the obama administration says the deal will be hard to come by without tax hikes for higher income americans and republican leaders led by house speaker john boehner calling the president's proposal essentially a waste of time. >> i was flabbergasted. >> we've the got seven weeks between election day and the end of the year, and three of those weeks have been wasted. >> steve centanni kicks off our college tonight from washington d.c. steve, where exactly do we stand tonight? >> well, harris, democrats are hoping republicans to raise taxes on the wealthy and the republicans are accusing the white house of wasting time. and saying that he didn't have a serious proposal when he reintroduced a plan to reduce 4 trillion dollars. >> the president asking for 1.6 trillion dollars worth of new revenue over ten years, twice as much as he's been asking for in public. his system spending in here that exceeded the amount of new cuts that he was willing to consider. it was not a serious offer. >> but so far it's the only white house of
now, negotiations here are at a stand still. president obama talks to the business round table today after telling bloomberg he absolutely won't bunch. the wealthiest americans must pay more. >> we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> reporter: he may be in a good position to wait it out. a new poll found more half of americans will blame republicans if we go over the fiscal cliff. >> republicans do not want to touch one hair on the head of one person making over $250,000. that is the rub. >> they've got to come with some specific revenue. they refuse to do that. >> reporter: even other republicans are split on john boehner's plan to avoid tax hikes all together and admit negotiations are going nowhere. >> nothing going on privately that's not going on publicly. >> reporter: republicans say the president needs to meet them halfway. >> he's got to be serious. he's offered more spending, more stimulus than offering any new cuts. >> reporter: and they insist there's good reason why people making over $250,000 a year should not pay more. >> when you raise tax rates, you'r
to negotiate with stupidity. they need to shine a spotlight on obama's proposal to ensure that the american people know how insane this is. and fourth, they need to use this as an opportunity to pass their own agenda. >> stephanie: so let's review. the president is stupid however he ran and won those on proposals. >> yeah, right. and what party that loses the election doesn't pass their agenda during a lame duck session? it is so obvious. but media matters had a good item last week about the right wing media. is absolutely encouraging and if not threatening republicans to do not negotiate with obama. do not even -- you know, no compromise. no good will effort at all. you don't have to do a thing. this is his problem. and republican parties should just sit back and even though, you know, that message didn't do so well on election day, that is what the rush limbaughs of the world are sticking to. >> stephanie: here he is, your friend, charles krauthammer. >> as a matter of policy, it does absolutely nothing
and real irony is going to be the ultimate deal's going to look like the obama boehner grand bargain that was negotiated and almost done in the summer of 2011. the fact that we couldn't make that deal then i think's a tragedy for the country. one of the thing's it did was lead to that aaa downgrading. that was unnecessary. >> let me just follow up on this point of what republicans should accept. you said you'd go back to the clinton era tax rates if you could get the spending that went with it. there are some in the republican party like congressman tom cole congress them saying let's just do that. let the rates go up for those at the top, then wait and negotiate. is there anything about that that you think could make sense? >> that's not a negotiation. the president's not going to then lower those rates. >> that might be a capitulation. >> yeah, it is a capitulation. the president thinks he's got all the cards. the republicans position improves at the beginning of the year and frankly, there are a number of people coming back, people who contributed to this mess and i'm not sure as
commitment that obama made, then we could go at international negotiations, and develop an agreement. i think the chinese understand that ultimately building all these coal plants is going to hurt them more than us because they've got more people. they've got a lot of people along the coast lines. they have a lot of people living in very dry arid conditions that will just get drier. they have a lot of mouths to feed and they're drawing down their aquifers. i think if the u.s. were in a position to show some leadership to say we're going to reduce emissions, now china get off your butt and you reduce emission, then i think you could see a global deal. obviously if the richest country in the world, which is is the biggest cumulative polluter refuses to lead, you can hardly expect poorer countries too do so. >> eliot: it has not really accomplished anything but you're right. there is no way to anticipate success if we do not take the first step and say as wealthy as we are we cannot afford to do so. it's imperative that we do so. author of "language and intelligence." joe rome, you are a diverse
from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> house speaker boehner saying that is president obama and the democrats to save you for being higher taxes. this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans, larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate is because, come the fiscal cliff moment, that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >> speaking as a reagan conservative, i must say i rather agree with you. probably shouldn't. but i do. i think divided government is very difficult. and there's some principles that speaker boehner is fighting for, with which i actually agree. but i think politically, the risk here for the gop, is they've become the party of rich people. and they give up the middle-class to the democrats. and i think you saw some of that in the presidential election. i don't think that's their inten
. >> thank you. >>> front page politics now. the man chosen by president obama to play a key role in the intense fiscal cliff negotiations is putting blame on the gop. here's timothy geithner on "meet the press." >> the only thing that stands in the way of a deal right now is if a group of republican members decide they are going to block a deal because they want to extend tax cuts. what you can expect from the and the a willingness to sit down and explore what the best way to get through this is. it's in the interest of the american people. >> that was followed by a fierce response from grover norquist, the man behind the no tax hike pledge embraced by many in the gop. >> every republican who had impure thoughts has to go back to the drawing board. they have just been told there are no real reforms in this budget. $1.6 trillion in tax increases. >> joining me is eleanor cliff and david dreker thank you for being here. so eleanor, we have timothy geithner who says there will be a deal before the end of the year but it doesn't look like anyone is willing to budge. is that your take
appears to be a stalemate in the negotiations. in his first interview since the election, president obama reiterated his demand that any deal must raise taxes on the highest earner. yesterday obama also appeared to showroom for flexibility on actually relowering those tax rates in the future. >> i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. the issue right now that's relevant is the acknowledgement that if we're going to raise revenues that are sufficient to balance with the very tough cuts that we've already made and the further reforms and entitlements that i'm prepared to make, that we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. p what i've suggested is let's essentially put a down payment on taxes. let's let tax rates on the upper income folks go up. and then let's set up a process with a time certain at the end of 2013 or the fall of 2013 where we work on tax reform, we look at what loopholes and deductions both democrats and republicans are willing to close, and it's possible that we may b
. the starting point today, the negotiator. the president sending timothy geithner to capitol hill in hopes of getting the fiscal cliff deal done before everyone's taxes go up. >> consolation lunch? president obama visits mitt romney to the white house today and everyone is buzzing about it. could obama offer him a job? >> congratulations to someone. you just won the gdp of a small nation. not just one but two winning tickets in last night's record powerball drawing. we'll tell you where. >> and if they will be my best friend soon. we have a packed show. john ba, rasso, adam shif, rick warren, tom cole, connie and mary bono mack and steven holcomb. >> we have so many people coming up. it is thursday, november 2. "starting point" begins right now. >>> good morning, everyone. our starting point this morning, developments happening now in cairo. the u.s. embassy there is closed. no one is being allowed in or out as we speak. >> embassy officials say protesters are blocking the entrance and clashes are happening near nearby. reza sayah is nearby for us. what's happening? >> reporter: there is n
as leverage in a negotiation. >> yesterday, president obama met with corporate ceos who said that a compromise is essential to avoiding the so-called fiscal cliff. here is ceo lloyd blankfein. >> reporter: if this were easy, we wouldn't be standing here having come fabs at the white house how to achieve it. it's going to be difficult. i think what we try to do is we try to get in as good a place as we possibly can. i would rather have more of the -- more of the taxes deferred to beyond the period where the economy is weak. >> well, maybe all of this is working. markets around the world are up today, a sign of confidence that a fiscal cliff deal just might be in the works. we'll see. another positive sign for the economy, the broadest picture we can get of the economy's health, gdp, came in quite a bit better than expected in the third quarter. alison kosik at the new york stock exchange to explain. hi. >> reporter: hey, carol. so between july and september, the economy grew at a 2.7% rate. so that came in much better than second quarter's rate, which was 1.3%. and there's definitely good stuff
exemptions or eliminates exemptions and that is what mitt romney ran on. i think barack obama is showing a different side of negotiation than he has in the past. he has been criticized by many, including me on occasion for give ago way the store. >> from his left. >> from his left. i mean but on his health-care bill, brought in farm aid, brought in all the drug companies and said okay, we're not going to invest with you. you support this. and gave away-- first the negotiations on the debt ceiling. the same thing, he was negotiating with medicare cuts right at the outset. and people say wait a minute, so here he comes in, he shows a little spine, a little steel, and this is what i said i was going to do, in the waive increases. they say wait, what about these medicare cuts. 9 only people that brought up medicare cuts were the republican was talked about obama was going to cut $716 billion so now we're in a situation where nobody wants his or her fingerprints on the medicare cuts. >> uh-huh. >> okay. the medicare cuts, i can assure you, and this is going to upset a lot of people, will appe
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